I have noticed that quite often people tend to have pre-conceived notions of sexual environs. For example, women tend to have a view of male strip clubs (the ones in which men patron and in which women wear spangly, sparkly G-strings that must surely cause thong rash, but I guess that is all in a day's work for them). The mental image is that the men are drunk, hooting and hollering, standing on the tables and slinging dollar bills at the nearest bra. But I went to a strip joint with a friend some years ago and I found I couldn't have been more wrong-it was quiet, subdued, with a "touch the lady and we kill you" mojo and $10 drinks to boot.
And perhaps people have a rather preconceived notions about sex clubs-that they are all moaning gasping people, slathered up in weird body grease and screaming as they get off. Rubber sheets and chat-up lines. Weird pervy types asking women to walk on them wearing stiletto heels.
The truth is, they are rather terribly polite, really. Quiet, no weird pervy types, and the people look like everyday people. And no weird body grease. It actually was more along the lines of:
Him: Hello, my name is Bob, and I will be your heavy petter for the day.
Me: Hello, Bob. My name is Helen, and I will be providing you with hand service briefly, before an associate will work with you on achieving the ultimate goal.
The thing about an orgy is, you don't always know what's going on around you. I have been to two such occasions, one rather by accident (it was a party that got quite naughty quite quickly), and once I visited a sex club. That's right. A sex club.
Remember-I was a liberal arts major in university.
The sex club was quite an experience. It was some time ago, and my then-boyfriend had found out about one in the city, and asked if I was up for it. Since I had never been to one, and my sexual policy in college was that I should try everything once (barring children and animals. Bless the beasts and the children, and protect them from the rigors of the bedroom), I said I was up for it.
So he booked us in the following Friday night.
When Friday rolled around, he was quite nervous, but I am honest when I say that I was only a little nervous. I was more curious. What would happen? Would we find others that thought we were attractive? Would it be all skanky and gross, or rather artfully arranged Grecian urns and moaning bodies?
The place itself was located in the bottom floor, under a store. There was a tasteful and subtle black and white sign outside, and once the door opened there was a short staircase, ending in a row of lockers. A long desk was to the left, with shelves and shelves of sex toys and vibrators, and a large mahogany bar was next to it. To the right were a series of showers and a men and a women's toilet. It was all rather dimly light, but very clean and very simplistically decorated.
We registered, paid a fee, and were handed two towels and a key to a locker. The norm was to put all the clothes in our locked locker and walk around in towels (although we were told that many others would turn up in PVC and lingerie), so in a moment of gusto we went with it, removed all our clothing and wrapped the towels around ourselves. I felt a bit stupid wearing a large white cotton towel, but it didn't seem to bother anyone else, so what the hell. When in Rome, after all. And surely the Romans had clubs like this.
The staff showed us the premises, replete with a dungeoun (no thank you), a gyno-chair (Hmm. I see the possibilities there, but not sure that I could ever look at my gynecologist the same way again), and a whip me/beat me place to tie up people to be spanked. It looked like fun, but the experience was on the verge of being intimidating enough, we both rather thought that was over the top for the day.
There was a room that was completely dark, although judging by the sounds, it was far from inactive in there. Another room with an enormous, with perhaps a 15 meter bed along one wall and mirrors on every wall (with couches along another wall so that people could watch), and finally one more room that was smaller, with a bed about 6 meters long and couches all along the walls. There was also a jacuzzi room, but that looked a little too Roman bathhouse for our tastes.
The rules there were simple: No meant no, without exception. The way to approach someone was to put a hand on their shoulder. If they pushed it away, it was a no. If they didn't, you were good to go. No sex in the jacuzzi (too difficult to clean up). No sex outside the property. Sex anywhere else was good to go (even on the bar, as the owner explained they were happy to remove glasses and ashtrays should the overwhelming horniness overtake one at the bar. Not only am I not that much of an exhibitionist, I had hygeine issues with that, and we ruled it out.) Condoms were not optional, they were mandatory. And man-to-man was discouraged unless their partners were going woman-to-woman, in which case amuse away.
And so there we were. We gulped down a glass of wine nervously, giggled, and took a shower next to the jacuzzi. We figured-we came to try something. So let's try it. What's the use of being here, bolting it up, and bailing without being able to check that box? So we walked into the smallest room, laid down in a space next to three other couples, and so it began.
He started in on me while our eyes darted around, scarcely able to comprehend what we were doing. We had ridden the edge on some other activities before, but never like this. It was hard to believe that on the same bed were three other couples getting it on. A few couples sat on the couches and watched. My boyfriend and I stayed together, moving together, just taking it in.
And then I looked up at his face, and grinned. I knew that he would enjoy this, and I really wanted to see what would happen next. I wanted to watch his expression.
So I touched the woman's shoulder next to me.
I was not rejected.
It was on.
I will spare you the gory details, but suffice to say that we entered the club with the ambition to try things, and try we did. At one point, I was in the center of a number of people, and I was never sure what was going on. Someone's hand brushed my shoulder. Whose? Someone held me close, and kissed my back. Whom? I was kissing someone-was it the same person that I had been kissing a second ago? My boyfriend was with someone with curly blond hair-had I already seen her?
To tell the truth, I was not so risque and in the end I only was directly active with my boyfriend and one other man (the possibility was there to actually have as many of the men as the women wanted, but I wasn't there to up my numbers in a ho-ish way, I was only there for the experience). Oh, and I got off with a few women, but not sure if you are counting them (although I had the best girlie sex that I have had to date yet with one woman there. If you're out there gorgeous-if only you knew how many rounds of self-relations I have had to you. SIGH). My boyfriend was active with me and one other woman (the partner to the man I was with there, we simply swapped partners).
I realize that it may make me look and sound bad, but it was a one-off and I am not sorry I did it. I wanted to know what an orgy was like, and now I know. I can see the attraction, it was big fun and a real eye-opener. I can also see that they can wear you out and they could be on the seedy side.
Luckily, this place was extremely clean, very safe-sex focused, and not once did I feel the situation was out of control. I rather remember it being very sensual. When I was in the center, people were quite careful with me, and I felt quite caressed and looked after. But when my boyfriend and I tried to go over the details later, it was too hard to remember-there was simply so much happening all around us there, it was hard to keep straight everything that had happened. My boyfriend and I left rather early, went home, showered, and spent the rest of the evening snuggling and making sure we were both feeling ok and not weirded out.
The owner remarked as we were leaving that that was the first time a newcomer couple like ourselves had jumped into such action. What can I say? When I put my mind to something, I really invest.
Would I do it again? Dunno, maybe with the right partner. But I have at least experienced it, seen what the hype was about, and haven't regretted that I took a chance to try it.
Now if you'll excuse me, my blog is posted, my job emails are responded to for the day, and I am going back to bed. But at least yesterday I showered and had a bit of dinner, so maybe things are looking up.
-H.
Posted by Everydaystranger at January 7, 2004 08:09 AM | TrackBackSeeing as a definitely-more-than-two-some is high on my wishlist of sexual things to try one day (but knowing myself I'm far too timid to actually visit a swinger's club myself), I thank you for sharing this.
But one thing I don't get: what is it about swingers and their apparent problems with male-male sexuality? This is not the first time I read/heard about it, and I just can't wrap my mind around the underlying thinking, if any.
Posted by: Gudy at January 10, 2004 12:51 AMWow, that's such a neat story. Thanks for the realism as opposed to BS that a total horndog would blast out here.
I'd love to try one of those places but it's not to be. You really have to have the right partner for that sort of thing. I wouldn't ask mine to do that in a million years.
Posted by: Almost Lucid (Brad) at January 8, 2004 05:31 PMMmm. No, it's still all in a heap.
I'll see if I can work out what it is that's wrong.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at January 8, 2004 10:16 AMI once was in a menage a trois....I was the only female with two guys. Maybe I am crazy, but I hated it. I felt like I should have been concentrating, and could not .....someone once told me that evidently the guys were "doing it wrong" because if they had "done it right",I would not have worried about concentration. At any rate, it is not an experience I care to repeat.
Posted by: me at January 8, 2004 05:05 AMThank you for writing that.
Ember (a stripper who's tired of the stereotypes)
Posted by: ember at January 7, 2004 10:21 PMRe: previous comment: "I've always assumed these places to be seedy and filled with sad overweight loners..."
You don't have anything to worry about; we sad overweight loners are still at home blowing our heads off with assault rifles.
The sex club post is a great story by the way. I think that everyone would be better off if they were so open.
Posted by: sad overweight loner at January 7, 2004 09:43 PMI definately want to try out a place like that. I've be in a few 3-6-somes, and I love it... not so much for the "strange", but because I soak in ambient sexual energy that people give off - it's a total rush! I can't imagine what a larger orgy aptmosphere would do to me - my brain would probably explode! If that ever happens, maybe I'll write about it too... I am, after all, an exhibionist ;-)
Posted by: ThatGuy at January 7, 2004 09:22 PMdamn, now did you have to go and make me horny at work!? eegads!
i've had one foursome experience that was quite lovely. i don't know if i'll ever do it again, but i'm glad i tried it. it was wonderfully sensual and quite a thrill. your experience sounds like it was amazing. and now you've got my imagination running amuck. so, when are we having that foursome?? ;-)
Posted by: kat at January 7, 2004 06:22 PMYou are using the word 'rather' rather a lot. AND in conjunction with terribly and really in the same sentence. Is Mr. Y rubbing off on you? What's next- superb? At the end of the day? :)
Great story, not over-the-top, just honest. That's one of the reasons why I love reading your weblog.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you regarding job/citizenship/life in general. I'm glad to hear that you're getting some shower/food time going.
Well written and informative without being full of titillation.
I've always assumed these places to be seedy and filled with sad overweight loners looking for find a woman who'd be 'up for it'...I'll have to amend my thinking!
Thanks...
Posted by: Wandring Soul at January 7, 2004 05:41 PMI think that the entire, "it works on IE but not anywhere else" is further proof that Bill Gates is the devil. All this stuff is on purpose, you know.
It's good to hear you're showering, Helen. No matter how bad things get in life, there's no excuse for bad hygiene. Also, it presents a most pleasing mental picture.
Posted by: Jiminy at January 7, 2004 05:29 PMDone that Pixy-try it now!
Posted by: Helen at January 7, 2004 05:28 PMExcellent story!
Posted by: Courtney at January 7, 2004 05:21 PMNo, still wonky. It's fine in IE; it's the old Mozilla Bottombar problem, which I've seen a number of times on MT sites.
What I think you need to do is this: In your main template, just after it says "About me!", there's a line that says <div id="links">
Move that line up a bit, to just before the line that says <div class="sidetitle">
I think that will fix it. Basically, it should haul everything into a single division which is your sidebar; at the moment your sidebar is broken into two parts, and Mozilla puts the second part down the bottom of the page.
Or I could be completely wrong... But that's what I have on Ambient Irony, and it seems to work.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at January 7, 2004 05:06 PM*hearts*
Posted by: Sarah at January 7, 2004 04:38 PMI have always been curious about those places. I was too scared to try though. Thanks for sharing!
Posted by: Ash at January 7, 2004 04:24 PMI think I want to open one of those places...Owner has best seat in the house
Posted by: Drew at January 7, 2004 03:44 PMEeks-nope, but I just rebuilt it, so see if it works now, Pixy.
Hate it when my site goes wonky.
Posted by: Helen at January 7, 2004 01:26 PMI've learned not to read Everydaystranger at work. :)
By the way, H, your sidebar has slipped off and fallen in a heap down the bottom of the page - at least as seen in Mozilla. Have you made a template or stylesheet change just recently?
Posted by: Pixy Misa at January 7, 2004 12:59 PMObviously only for research purposes, but I need phone number and address of this place please. I'm, ummm, yeah, that's it, I'm researching, ummm, orgies. That's it. Yeah.
And now I've gotta wait 5 minutes before I can leave my desk. Think boring thoughts, think boring thoughts...
Posted by: Simon at January 7, 2004 11:00 AMlucky you... Some countries still don't have such places where you can explore your "dark" side. By "such places", i meant the clean and safe place that you went to. I am sure orgy places exist throughout the world, but then some might be a little scary!
When you are lucky, how can you be unlucky? Maybe a brief time-off from work is lucky. Soon it won't be, and then you'll get your job. Did that make sense? A little heavy for me too :-)
Posted by: Sid at January 7, 2004 10:53 AMI next see my therapist on Monday next week.
And boooooooy, do I have a lot to tell him...
Posted by: Helen at January 7, 2004 10:38 AMAfter reading that, I'm tempted to head back to bed too.
My fingers are crossed for your job opps and citizenship but my toes are all crossed hoping you'll get out of the funk very soon. Depression is a nasty and pervasive foe, I know. When do you see your counselor next? I'm hoping you can get some help there.
Take care, my dear.
Posted by: Jim at January 7, 2004 10:24 AM