Last Saturday night Best Friend, Dear Mate and I met up in a great pub in the center of Stockholm in order to commiserate. And talk about our holidays. And to consume mass quantities of beer. And my two dearest boys were also (as they say from their home country of England) "on the pull", a.k.a. trying to pick up a chick.
This was ok with me.
So we met up in an Irish pub in Stockholm that serves great beer, is run by an Irish staff, is usually filled to the brims with people from all countries and cultures, and has a live band playing most nights of the week. This weeks' band was a traditional Irish band playing what I like to call "diddly-diddly" music. You know, the kind with unusual harps, flutes, hopping beats that make us tap our feet and makes us all feel that if only we could understand the suffering that Frank went through in "Angela's Ashes", then we would be closer to the mother country.
(Please note: I am reasonably confident the Irish do not call said music diddly-diddly music. To each his own.)
We proceeded to have one hell of an evening.
Discussion started in right away-you know, the usual pub stuff. Ex-lovers, the meaning of life, solving the ills of big business, and how to end world hunger. Or in the case with my discussion with the Boys, we kicked off with class distinctions.
Dear Mate and I had started talking about this on the train. Like Mr. Y, Dear Mate is posh. He oozes poshness, which is something that Best Friend (who is not posh) and I like to take the mickey out of him about. I told Dear Mate that I believed he was from upper-middle class, whereas my roots are actually upper-lower or lower-middle (although I would say both my parents are now firmly lower-upper now). Dear Mate believes that the class you are born into is the one that you are stuck with. Best Friend backs that up.
But, here is the case in point I used then: Michael Jackson was born into (I believe) very firmly lower class. He now has oodles and oodles of money. Bad taste and extreme perviness aside, although it pains me in the extreme to say it, I would say that he is upper class now (just talking the financials here.) But the Boys feel that he isn't upper class since he wasn't born that way. However his children will be raised with oodles of cash (unless the Freak of the Week loses it all in court, that is) and so they will be upper class. And upper class implies social responsibility and the lofty goals those entail, so if freaky J actually contributed some of his oodles of cash to children's charities (as opposed to his defense funds) then he would be kosher.
By this reasoning, since I was born into upper-lower, I will always be upper-lower. However my life is much improved from a financial perspective over what it was when I wa a kid, and so my children may enjoy the status of middle-middle or upper-middle (should the job situation be fixed over the next few months, of course).
Good thing I only have a dog, at least he won't bitch to Oprah about his mediocre middle-class upbringing.
This talk then proceeded onto the ins and outs of child support payments and splitting up. Both of them are English with Swedish-based households, and they compared notes.
BF: So, have you checked the "you're going to lose your ass in this settlement" website?
DM: No, I only checked the "how to wiggle the percentages" site. But it was American, so it doesn't help.
BF: Did you use the one with the calculations of the point-based system that the children are in with regards to their intake of breaths on a weekly basis?
DM: Yes I did, but still found that I must pay a minimum of 5 pounds a week, although I can pay less if I am willing to forgo all orgasms for the rest of my life.
OK, this wasn't exactly what they said, but then my relationship that is splitting up is childless so this is all non-info to me. I drag the Boys upstairs to listen to the diddly-diddly music, and we are off.
We sit at a table with some Swedish computer engineers that brought their cameras, so I have a few shots of all of us. Dear Mate hit it off with a woman at the next table almost immediately (thereby having me dub him Flirty Spice in my mind for the evening) while we all kept drinking. Kilkenney for Best Friend. Guinness for Dear Mate. Bishop's Finger for me. Round after round after round. And in no time, we started to display our typical signs of being drunk. Dear Mate gets really chatty and flirty with the ladies when he's a bit pissed and Best Friend goes through swings of I-Love-my-Life and I-Hate-My-Life. He swings with more rapidity than others.
And me? I get really wound up and come across as Tigger on speed, pinging off the wall with concussion-possible speeds. This is before I reach the "I'm drunk" level, in which case I pass out completely at whatever locale I happen to be at-the table, the bed, my own dinner party. That night Dear Mate and Best Friend seemed to have kept my tipsy-ass in eyesight the entire time, I think to make sure I was ok.
Then little Helen (aka Beer Spice) found a lipstick on the floor. I proceeded to put the lipstick on the single men in the pub and ask them to kiss my cheek. I was a bit shocked to discover that almost all of the men were completely up for it (I was only rejected twice) and found it genuinely funny. By the end I looked like rosacea had really taken over my face, or else I had spent too much time in Candy' House of Pain.
Dear Mate's chick was apparently a bit envious and sour at my success with making the men laugh with the lipstick rountine (and was uncomfortable with the attention that Dear Mate and Best Friend showed me). Fuck it.
Pull the nails from your hands and use them to climb down from the cross, dearie.
As the night went on, so did the beer and the honesty. Dear Mate decided to opt out of his bit of flirty fluff. And as we were leaving at 2 am, bleary and beery, walking to the subway to take us all to our respective beds, Best Friend turned to me.
BF: How do I know that if I leave my wife and find another woman, that she won't dump me? I mean, how do I know if maybe I should just stay with my wife and accept a loveless and passionless marriage?
And thinking of Mr. Y somewhere out in the cold, blue world, I took Best Friend's cheeks in my hand and stood on tiptoes to look him in the eyes.
Me: It's called faith, baby. You just have to have it when it comes to love. Sometimes love is all about taking a chance.
And when his subway roared into sight and he got on, I realized that I really meant those words. Even for myself. And it's given me the strength to keep going.
These are my boys, who mean the world to me. Everyone, this is Dear Mate, me, and Best Friend. Boys, this is everyone.
-H.
PS-at one point yesterday I checked in on my blog and saw, in one hour's time frame, 100 people had trucked through. This either means that my stats are off or else something else is wonky (I have to go with the wonky part). At any rate, thank you for coming to my wonky little spot in my wonky little universe :)
PPS-Check out Ilyka's Best of Me Symphony. There is an entry from yours truly there. And Ilyka is very cool, hipper than I am I think, which gives me something to strive for.
PPPS-I have an interview today at 4:30 pm, an interview with Dream Job on Wednesday afternoon, and an interview with another company on Friday morning. Things are picking up. I even found out a way to maybe survive if Sweden rejects my citizenship. Fingers crossed, please. I need all the help I can get...I am off to London now, more from me shortly!
Posted by Everydaystranger at January 13, 2004 08:25 AM | TrackBackThe English attitude to social class is different to the American one.
In England you're always the class into which you're born, although it's possible for your children to be of a higher/lower class to you depending on your status as an adult (they can never be properly upper class though unless you marry some horse-faced toff). In the US, however, class seems more directly linked to money than anything else with the perception that increased wealth equates to higher social class, hence people's class changing as they age.
Posted by: Gareth at January 15, 2004 12:34 PMSean, of course you would say that. ;)
Helen, best of luck. Hope the interview went well. I feel for you & your friends & the relationship issues. Been there.
Posted by: cyberangel at January 15, 2004 07:51 AMWhile Michael Jackson was born into a lower-class family, the Jackson 5 hit it very big when he was, like, 5 years of age, so he was really raised in an upper class (new money) environment. I kind of agree with what they said.
Posted by: sean at January 15, 2004 03:15 AMHey H! Just a few quick things. First off, "Tigger on speed" just made me giggle my arse off. Next, yum, Kilkenney! And finally, thanks for your help with the moving abroad info. Nothing more has been discussed between me and Current Man, but the info was helpful and at least will give me some place to start trying to figure this mess out. Hope all goes well with your interviews!
Posted by: amy t. at January 14, 2004 08:06 PMSOLOMON,
It isn't her love for me which is the problem but my love for her. It is a long story but we have grown apart over the last few years in terms of interests and goals and basically what we want from life. While I love her as a friend, I am no longer 'in love' with her.
As for the web sites, of course H has taken some poetic license with the URLs, but my wife has done some research into such things - so I thought it a good idea to do some research so that I least know the deal.
WIRED NERVE,
Thanks for your words of support. It is totally about having the courage of my convictions and being able to let go ... when I do, I'm sure H will let you all know ...
Posted by: Best Friend at January 14, 2004 09:12 AM*hugs* Luck!
Posted by: Courtney at January 14, 2004 02:35 AM"It's called faith, baby. You just have to have it when it comes to love. Sometimes love is all about taking a chance"
So very, very, very true.
Love your little adventure with the lipstick. Of course the boys wouldn't turn down a chance to kiss you in all your hotness!
Hope the interview went well and good luck with the others! You'll be fabulous!
Posted by: Laura at January 14, 2004 02:14 AMAnd ignore the mor emajor modification to your first name.
--Guinness Wieland
Posted by: Guinness at January 14, 2004 01:57 AMLeslie,
You should just marry me, then you would only have to make a slight modification to your last name. It's fate.
Posted by: Guinness at January 14, 2004 01:55 AMFaith and love are a bit confusing sometimes, aren't they? In my whole life, there's only been one man who wanted to spend his life with me. I didn't work hard enough to make the relationship work, and when it ended I innocently assumed that something better would come along. The older I get, the more I'm realizing what a gift that was, to have a relationship with someone who really truly would have loved to have spent forever with me. Ah well, live and learn.
Posted by: Lesley at January 14, 2004 01:20 AMRemember Helen,
You are interviewing these companies. Not the other way around. Find out their cultures, etc. If all indicate they suck in one or more ways? Then continue looking. Not just you but most people are more productive and creative than their jobs allow them to be.
Have fun with it.
Posted by: Roger at January 14, 2004 01:05 AMIt's hard as hell to type with my fingers crossed! Good luck, Helen!
Posted by: Sue at January 13, 2004 11:01 PMLeaving your loved one... Wow, this is something I have just about completed. He does need to take a leap of faith and just do it... Ya, you might end up alone and such, but you will also grow and become a better person in the end for having faith in yourself...
Later
Posted by: Wired Nerve at January 13, 2004 10:27 PMNice pic. I think anyone can change their class/stars whatever. Its a matter of mind over matter.
Posted by: pylorns at January 13, 2004 07:53 PMHello girlie!
I am wishing very hard for you to have good luck with your interview. Hey, wait...it already happened :-(
I think...
Posted by: Rob at January 13, 2004 07:28 PMGood Luck/What happened?? ;)
Posted by: pam at January 13, 2004 07:03 PM
Goodluck on your interview Miss H. Godbless.
It sounds like a generally good time was had by all. It is good to get out and about, at least a little. Happy to hear that things are looking up a bit, and good luck in all of the upcoming job dealies.
Posted by: Guinness at January 13, 2004 06:26 PMoo, interviews galore! good luck good luck good luck!!
and you sound like a blast to go out drinking with. one of these days! :-)
Posted by: kat at January 13, 2004 05:47 PMBut no interview back in the old USA eh?
Good Luck with the meetings. ::Does a shot to wish you luck::
Posted by: Drew at January 13, 2004 05:16 PMI am a blog lurker, and yours is fun to read. This is my first post, and I wish you ton's of luck for your interview, and will try not to lurk as much...
Posted by: jennifer at January 13, 2004 05:10 PMGood luck with the interviews H. London's even sunny at the moment, which has to be a good sign... right?
Posted by: Gareth at January 13, 2004 04:55 PMH,
Best of luck on the interviews. One of them is bound to be smart enough to hire you on the spot.
Holy crap! That picture of the boys is down-right spooky. From that angle it could be me in that picture sitting on your right. Dear Mate is it?
PC
Posted by: Paul at January 13, 2004 04:32 PMddc... not! Miguel.
Posted by: msd at January 13, 2004 03:48 PMOh, and I think I may have found your twin here in San Diego, CA. What do you think?http://mymere.com/
Posted by: ddc at January 13, 2004 03:29 PMI wish I had a tape recorder sometimes when I'm out drinking with my bestfriend. All of the answers are right there when your filled to the brim with alcohol. It's almost like ....why didn't I think of that before? But, by the time you wake up you can't remember how you even got your shoes off let alone the answers to world peace. At least you remembered what you said to BF and it was good advice too!
You know Angela's Ashes is my favorite book. Good movie too.
Good luck today, sweetie.
Posted by: Tiffani at January 13, 2004 03:23 PMIs that bar you're in called Leroy's? I think I may recognize the wood paneling, but may be totally off here. Anyway, best of luck with the job interview! - ddc
Posted by: ddc at January 13, 2004 03:15 PMI have an interview today at 4:30 pm, an interview with Dream Job on Wednesday afternoon, and an interview with another company on Friday morning. Things are picking up.
Knew they would eventually! Good luck!
Posted by: ilyka at January 13, 2004 03:08 PMMy fingers are crossed for you, dear! Best of luck!
Posted by: amber at January 13, 2004 03:03 PMA marriage doesn't have to REMAIN loveless and passionless. Obviously Best Friend can't make his wife love him and have passion for him, but he can kindle that in himself for her.
Familiarity breeds contempt; so it is with marriage if we let it be. We get familiar w/ our spouse and stop treating them with respect and great love. Do the things you did at first: buy flowers, write poetry, without prompting tell her you love her,.... It takes two to tango, but one has to lead. BF should try leading the love and passion back into his marriage. Just don't do it all at once, or she'll think you've cheated on her.
It's certainly worth a try, and it defintely beats www.she-gets-everything.com and www.will-I-ever-see-my-kids.org
Posted by: Solomon at January 13, 2004 02:43 PMIt's called trad, or traditional Irish music. There are many different styles/blends reaching from "diddly diddly" to Irish Rock. A best example of great Isirsh music would be anything from "the waterboys" or anything from "the stunning" greatest hits. they can be found on the popurlar file shring networks, donkey kaza. love the blog, wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of you. oh and I agree with the boys. Class stays with you.
Posted by: pat at January 13, 2004 02:32 PMhelen, let me quote you:"It's called faith, baby. You just have to have it when it comes to love. Sometimes love is all about taking a chance.". Now try to replace the word love with the word life... thats the way I see it. Life is about love, of course, but no one can quote me on that. I have a reputation to keep. Good luck and get it all, job and citizenship. Miguel.
Posted by: msd at January 13, 2004 01:14 PMFingers crossed, check! Break a leg, H.
Oh, wait. They probably don't say that in Sweden, do they? How about "Knock 'em dead"?
Posted by: Jim at January 13, 2004 11:31 AM